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1. The Israelites brought Satan home with them from dualistic Babylon.
2. There is no Trinity. The Spirit of Holiness is not a "person."
3. No "eternal existence" for those who "die in their sins." Only annihilation.
Just clearing some ground.
Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct your paths. ~Pr. 3:5-6
Love animals; God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. ~Dostoyevsky
Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct your paths. ~Pr. 3:5-6
Love animals; God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. ~Dostoyevsky
What probably feels to you like a big deal, is no big deal on the Support Board. You might be interested in the Discussion Board. But CoC folks now give that Board a wide berth. The ex-CoC tend to be hard on them.
N T Wright has said the Bible describes the Trinity a lot better than the later Christian efforts do: "From very early in Christianity the spirit became part of the new revolutionary definition of God himself ; 'the one who sends the son and the spirit of the son'.
As to dualism, there is no hint of dualism in the OT, that I am aware of. In Job's poem, Satan can only do what God allows.
Annihilation is certainly more in line with Christ Jesus' teaching and Paul's view of things, IMO, than the idea of eternal torment. The idea of eternal torment assumes that there is a part of us that God cannot destroy.
What probably feels to you like a big deal, is no big deal on the Support Board. You might be interested in the Discussion Board. But CoC folks now give that Board a wide berth. The ex-CoC tend to be hard on them.
N T Wright has said the Bible describes the Trinity a lot better than the later Christian efforts do: "From very early in Christianity the spirit became part of the new revolutionary definition of God himself ; 'the one who sends the son and the spirit of the son'.
As to dualism, there is no hint of dualism in the OT, that I am aware of. In Job's poem, Satan can only do what God allows.
Annihilation is certainly more in line with Christ Jesus' teaching and Paul's view of things, IMO, than the idea of eternal torment. The idea of eternal torment assumes that there is a part of us that God cannot destroy.
The Bible describes the Trinity nowhere. ". . . jn the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit" does not necessitate a Trinity; and I did not say that there was dualism in the OT.
How does one get to the Discussion Board?
Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct your paths. ~Pr. 3:5-6
Love animals; God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. ~Dostoyevsky
and THEN - there are two links to discussion board, link a leads to this board (the support board) and link b leads to the dialog board between coc members and former members - assuming it works -
- I was having trouble with it yesterday -
Hmmm -
teresa: the link to the discussion board from the main portal appears to be broken.
But you can go directly to it HERE:
h**p://members.usafreeforum.com/
Just replace all those ** with tt.
History is the fiction we invent to persuade ourselves that events are knowable and that life has order and direction. That's why events are always reinterpreted when values change. We need new versions of history to allow for our current prejudices.
teresa I get the old makephp 'address' on that second link. I've even tried deleting the main portal saved bookmark and reloading it. Oddly enough, if I RIGHT CLICK on the link and choose 'open in new tab', it goes to the right place just fine. But clicking on the link itself tries to load the OLD location.
History is the fiction we invent to persuade ourselves that events are knowable and that life has order and direction. That's why events are always reinterpreted when values change. We need new versions of history to allow for our current prejudices.
It seems pretty clearly to be something to do with my computer and not something universal. No worries, I'll get it figured out sometime soon.
History is the fiction we invent to persuade ourselves that events are knowable and that life has order and direction. That's why events are always reinterpreted when values change. We need new versions of history to allow for our current prejudices.
You may have to wait more than 2 hours for someone to respond before declaring this a "dying board."
And yeah, I imagine you might've thought you dropped a bombshell on us, but the truth of the matter is that there are all kinds of us exers. Some of us just decided we were OK with musical instruments and went to the next best fundamentalist church. Some of us are Preterists. Some of us are Catholic. Some of us are gay. Some of us are Republicans. Some of us are atheists. Some of us are Muslim. Some of us are just like you. Some of us are nothing like you.
So yeah, you'd have to drop a pretty big bombshell to get the shock and debate that I suspect you were looking for.
