Extemporaneous Prayer

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Dixie_Amazon
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Extemporaneous Prayer

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I know this not exclusive to the CoC, but it is something I do not miss at all. When certain men went up to lead a prayer I wanted to slip out to escape their rambling and repetitive missives.

This was brought to mind by this article, Learning to Pray with the Church], written by an evangelical on how the Book of Common Prayer has taught him to organize his prayers.
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There are a number of pluses to having a proper 'prayer book': it gives people a 'language' suitable for prayer, it suggests themes, it teaches doctrine/theology to the group in a relatively painless fashion, and it supplies a prayer PLAN for the clueless 'prayer leader'.
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I personally despise extemporaneous prayer, other than in the quietude of one's own heart. Here's food for thought, offered in a spirit of gleeful spite:

Related to "EXTEMPORANEOUS"

Synonyms ad hoc, ad-lib, impromptu, improvised, offhand, off-the-cuff, spur-of-the-moment, unconsidered,
unplanned, unprepared, unstudied

Antonyms considered, planned, premeditative, prepared


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That was one of the many things I had to adjust to when I switched denominations. I had never before heard "planned" prayers. Sometimes I think they sound artificial, but much of the time I really find them meaningful.
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The prayers over the crackers and grape juice used in the "Lawrd's Supper" nearly always ended with "...please help us to do this(or partake) in a manner which will be well pleasing in thy sight."

Prayer at the end of the service didn't seem "correct" unless included "guard, guide, and direct us..." at the end.

C o C will bash Episcopalians,etc. over their prayer books or written prayers, but it uses the same trite phrases in many of its prayers all the time.
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I know I heard direct quotes from The Book of Common Prayer.
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It's interesting that the COC has no issue whatsoever with pre-written songs but will 'bash' the denominations that use books of pre-written prayers. Neither is 'authorized' under CENI but only the prayers attract COC accusations of 'vain repetitions.'

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I have thought about this thread a good bit over the past few days...I am glad the topic was raised
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musicman wrote:The prayers over the crackers and grape juice used in the "Lawrd's Supper" nearly always ended with "...please help us to do this(or partake) in a manner which will be well pleasing in thy sight."

Prayer at the end of the service didn't seem "correct" unless included "guard, guide, and direct us..." at the end.

C o C will bash Episcopalians,etc. over their prayer books or written prayers, but it uses the same trite phrases in many of its prayers all the time.
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