Ex-Church of Christ Support Board

agricola wrote:Because Messianic 'Jews' make ownership claims to Judaism, klp. They appropriate the outer forms and take on the outer appearance of 'Judaism' in order to deceive. They 'practice to deceive' and deny actual Judaism any reality, attempting to blur it out of existence.

That's really rude, not to mention a few other things.

We'd far rather an honest Christian with an honest opinion that Christianity is correct.

Well as long as the shunning is justified then I guess it is OK. And there is your answer ena, yes, at least some Jews practice shunning, even saying that actual Jews are not Jews. In fact the Israeli Supreme Court has ruled that Messianic Jews are not allowed citizenship in Israel. And it is justified because these Jews decided to change from the religion they were raised in...(I know, go figure). They now hold new and different beliefs and values from how they were raised. And that is why I said the assertion made on this thread that Jews don't deny the truth of others or think they alone have truth doesn't seem to fit with the shunning. Because the practice of shunning itself seems to me to undermine this assertion of being open and inclusive. But that is just my opinion.

We have drifted far afield from the original post, and now an issue arises that has been discussed over and over and over... This is the agreement and support section of the board, so I think this discussion is ready to come to a close now, before disagreements and non-support have the opportunity to arise.