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The Lord's Prayer
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:51 pm
by Grace
As we were saying the Lord's Prayer in Church tonight, I remembered that my mother and our Church of Christ would not say the Lord's prayer.
There was some issue about "your kingdom come" as I recall.
Did your CoC every recite the Lord's prayer?
If they didn't, what was their reasoning to not say it?
Re: The Lord's Prayer
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:20 am
by ena
Grace wrote:As we were saying the Lord's Prayer in Church tonight, I remembered that my mother and our Church of Christ would not say the Lord's prayer.
There was some issue about "your kingdom come" as I recall.
Did your CoC every recite the Lord's prayer?
If they didn't, what was their reasoning to not say it?
Jesus establishes a physical kingdom when he returns. This is part of Bible prophesy which the church cops out on.
See Isaiah 9.
Re: The Lord's Prayer
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:23 am
by GuitarHero
Grace wrote:As we were saying the Lord's Prayer in Church tonight, I remembered that my mother and our Church of Christ would not say the Lord's prayer.
There was some issue about "your kingdom come" as I recall.
Did your CoC every recite the Lord's prayer?
If they didn't, what was their reasoning to not say it?
Because the kingdom has already come. Didn't you know? The kingdom is The Church! So we couldn't pray for it to come, since it was already there.
Sigh... sometimes I hate that I still know all this bullshit.
Re: The Lord's Prayer
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:52 am
by Lev
We were taught to just replace the phrase, "thy kingdom come" with, "thy kingdom spread," in order to acknowledge that the kingdom had come and that what we now want is for the COC (i.e. the kingdom) to spread. You know, changing the actual language of scripture--no big deal.
Lev
Re: The Lord's Prayer
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:12 am
by Struggler
We were encouraged to say "Thy Kingdom HAS come," although I never did that when we said it in school. (Yes, we said the Lord's Prayer and recited the Pledge of Allegiance in school and it didn't hurt anyone.) Of course, "Thy Kingdom come," could also mean, "They Kingdom IS come."
A minister I know taught on the Lord's Prayer and said there's nothing wrong with saying or praying it as written. Non-issue to me.
Re: The Lord's Prayer
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:26 am
by AtPeace
Wasn't an issue when I was growing up in the CoC.
I went to a public school, and we recited it daily.
Re: The Lord's Prayer
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:33 pm
by williamray123
GuitarHero wrote:Grace wrote:As we were saying the Lord's Prayer in Church tonight, I remembered that my mother and our Church of Christ would not say the Lord's prayer.
There was some issue about "your kingdom come" as I recall.
Did your CoC every recite the Lord's prayer?
If they didn't, what was their reasoning to not say it?
Because the kingdom has already come. Didn't you know? The kingdom is The Church! So we couldn't pray for it to come, since it was already there.
Sigh... sometimes I hate that I still know all this bullshit.
classic CoC... Jesus offers a model prayer and the CoC knows better and corrects him.
Re: The Lord's Prayer
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:21 pm
by B.H.
williamray123 wrote:GuitarHero wrote:Grace wrote:As we were saying the Lord's Prayer in Church tonight, I remembered that my mother and our Church of Christ would not say the Lord's prayer.
There was some issue about "your kingdom come" as I recall.
Did your CoC every recite the Lord's prayer?
If they didn't, what was their reasoning to not say it?
Because the kingdom has already come. Didn't you know? The kingdom is The Church! So we couldn't pray for it to come, since it was already there.
Sigh... sometimes I hate that I still know all this bullshit.
classic CoC... Jesus offers a model prayer and the CoC knows better and corrects him.
Jesus shouldn't have been running all over the Holy Land teaching "error" then.
Re: The Lord's Prayer
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:39 pm
by FinallyFree
In my Disciples of Christ church, we say it every Sunday. I love it! I have heard that you can think of it like . . .Thy kingdom has come, so they will be done on earth. It works either way.
Re: The Lord's Prayer
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:16 pm
by Lev
B.H. wrote:Jesus shouldn't have been running all over the Holy Land teaching "error" then.
One example of the many disagreements between Jesus and the COC.
Lev