Down the Rabbit Hole

[FinallyFree]

Also, didn't the early church speak in tongues and prophesy? Didn't the women keep their head covered? We don't do any of that.

[bnot]

The church Campbell envisioned has splintered so many times it would be impossible for him to recognize the mess.

Exactly. Well after Campbell's death the hardline coc broke away from the movement when Daniel Sommer gave the Sand Creek address and declaration in 1889. He disfellowshipped the other churches of the movement who did not follow his coc point of view. If this man was brought back to life he could recognize a coc with no problem.

[Opie]

The CoC desperately tries to convince itself that it was founded in A.D. 33, but historically that just isn't plausible. If you had to try to pinpoint the actual date that the CoC started, most historians would go with August 18, 1889 at Sand Creek, Illinois. That's when Daniel Sommer declared that he and his followers would not regard other Christians as brethren unless they agreed with his opinions.

[williamray123]

The church Campbell envisioned has splintered so many times it would be impossible for him to recognize the mess.

Exactly. Well after Campbell's death the hardline coc broke away from the movement when Daniel Sommer gave the Sand Creek address and declaration in 1889. He disfellowshipped the other churches of the movement who did not follow his coc point of view. If this man was brought back to life he could recognize a coc with no problem.

Interesting... I didn't know about Sommer. I knew about Campbell's declaration and address but not sommer.. Thanks will be doing some research now

[KLP]

Again, one person's "hardline" is another person's "faithful". Baptist of the 1800's are not the Baptist of today. IMO, there is no telling what Campbell would do today...He would probably need some time to get over modern life including electricity, plumbing, ease of travel, communications, the internetz, video conference, and PowerPoint. He might need to start with flannel boards and then work up to overhead projectors.

[B.H.]

Again, one person's "hardline" is another person's "faithful". Baptist of the 1800's are not the Baptist of today. IMO, there is no telling what Campbell would do today...He would probably need some time to get over modern life including electricity, plumbing, ease of travel, communications, the internetz, video conference, and PowerPoint. He might need to start with flannel boards and then work up to overhead projectors.

Did they have flannel board technology back in his day?

[KLP]

They were still getting the bugs out of it back then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_Felt

[B.H.]

They were still getting the bugs out of it back then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_Felt

Nuh Uh. Alexander Campbell died in the 1860's and fuzzy felt didn't come along until World War II. KLP is a false teacher!

I am going to creat a fuzzy felt scene where KLP gets stoned!

[KLP]

They were still getting the bugs out of it back then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_Felt

Nuh Uh. Alexander Campbell died in the 1860's and fuzzy felt didn't come along until World War II. KLP is a false teacher!

I am going to creat a fuzzy felt scene where KLP gets stoned!

Yes, B.H. gets a star for Readin' but earns a frowny face for Readin' Comprehenshun. BH, it didn't come on the market until mid-1900's because they were still getting the bugs out of the felt/flannel since the 1800's. Lots of bugs back then. At best Campbell would have seen a demo of it in a booth at the Lads to Leaders or Polishing the Pulpit or other brotherhood conventions.

[onward]

Also, didn't the early church speak in tongues and prophesy? Didn't the women keep their head covered? We don't do any of that.

Unfortunately, ultra-conservative CoC tribes invariably have a super elder that decides what is acceptable to believe, or not to believe. These elders must depend on gullible congregations that accept their warped traditions and twisted Scriptural interpretations with unquestionable adherence. Pet Bible passages are ripped out of context, (often helter-skelter based on preconceived beliefs) and crammed down the collective throats of the church.

These super elders (and often idolized pulpiteers) decide what is important to incorporate into the church, and what to ignore, without any congregational input ... basically, MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY approach.